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More details on the reasons for the state of the relationship between Gamache and his son Daniel were revealed in this book, which explained why they had such a strained relationship. I felt that there were pieces missing before, although I do understand that children do hide and carry hurts from a young age through to adulthood. Some very severely, so I do think the reasons and state of their relationship was believable before. But now, after reading The Grey Wolf, I understand the relationship much better. I think this is a lesson to trust Louise Penny and know that there are much deeper stories that result in what we read in the books and that eventually, these stories will be told.
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The slow reveal of character backstories makes this series so rich and has added so much depth to the stories, which are already so meaningful in how they shed light on human nature, culture and history. This book stood out to one of my favourites because of the relationship development between Gamache and Daniel. That scene on the couch after Gamache closes his eyes…and when he opened them, the words on the page took my breath away. This was the moment that I fell in love with this book.
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Yes, I agree. I loved that part so much!
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I’ve been thinking more about the various relationships throughout the book. Although our beloved Three Pines regulars were background players this time ‘round, I thought there were many touching moments between the core detectives. There were several introspective moments between our trio of sleuths and some genuinely heartfelt scenes.
For me, these included Jean-Guy bringing softsided shoes and an ice pack for Gamache’s injured foot after the mayhem at Open Da Night. Gamache reflects, when did Jean-Guy start taking care of him and then realizes they have been taking care of each other since they met.
Gamache also has several flashbacks to Isabelle holding his hand at the factory when he was shot, about how that moment was so meaningful for him and there are some interesting parallels in several chapters.
And Isabelle has a lovely internal monologue in Chapter 12. I’m going to quote it because it’s just so moving in how it encapsulates so much of what I enjoy about Three Pines and the people:
“How often, she wondered, had the three of them sat like this, discussing murder? In crappy hotel rooms, in shacks in the middle of nowhere that doubled as incident rooms. On boats. Once in a canoe in Northern Quebec. In tents, as they’d camped out, searching the dense bush for a killer on the run…
“But her favorite was when the trail of a killer took them to Gamache’s own village of Three Pines. They’d confer in the Old Train Station, set up as an incident room, or in the bistro. And sometimes in the Chief’s own home. At the worn pine table in his kitchen. Drinking coffee, or iced tea, or beer, or that delicious vibrant pink lemonade the Chief claimed to make for Florence and Zora.
“They’d eat sandwiches, or burgers, or grilled salmon, and go over notes. Feeding the log fire on bitterly cold winter nights and hearing the crickets through the screen doors on steamy summer days. While Isabelle Lacoste hated murder, she loved this process. She loved these people.”Another touching moment (as I mention in my previous comment) for me was between Gamache and his son Daniel when they sit down to talk and Gamache, burdened by not being able to tell even his son about the terrorist plot, hears from his son that he trusts him even though he can’t share what he knows.
There are, of course, other relationships between secondary characters and Gamache that jarred me. Like when I learned why Shona Dorion (the blogger) hates Gamache so much. Or when Gamache is betrayed – yet again – by a long-time friend and long-time associate. Gamache just can’t seem to escape being surrounded by people that lie to him or judge his actions harshly and want revenge.
But back to another touching moment – when Jean-Guy helps Ruth off the couch and she tells him he better come home. I loved it. So brief, but so poignant.
I’m curious to hear what moments others pick out.
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I enjoyed what I consider an evolution in the relationships between Armand and both Daniel and Jean-Guy. We certainly know a lot more details about Daniel and Armand’s relationship and details that paint a more complex picture than “All the Devil’s Are Here.” But this is not the first time we learn about drug use by Daniel. It comes out in “The Cruelest Month” when Brebeuf is trying to bring Armand down. He has Daniel arrested in Paris by alleging to authorities there that Daniel has drugs. And again, we hear references to Daniel’s drug use in “Glass Houses” in the conversation when Armand acknowledges to the Crown Prosecutor that he hoped Barry would work with him to capture the drug cartel leaders because he knew that Barry’s daughter had nearly committed suicide while using. While this is different from the picture of Daniel whose estrangement is based on his childhood assumptions, it is not entirely new. And, I think both can be part of a picture, different windows on Daniel’s struggle with his dad. Jean-Guy also come across as more mature to me, more introspective and comfortable in his own skin. I found his conversations with Armand while at the Abbey, both revisiting their struggles and feelings when they parted on their first visit a poignant reminder of just how close they are. The sense of intimacy and trust between these two men grows deeper. And Armand seems willing to simply accept Jean-Guy’s care and nurturing in a way he seemed to resist in the past. “When did Jean-Guy begin to look after him, when it had long been the other way around?” “But as the pain eased, Armand realized it has always been mutual.” It had been mutual but Armand still accepted Jean-Guy’s efforts reluctantly many times. In the scene with the ice pack and new shoes, he seems to be more willing to simply accept or acknowledge his vulnerability.
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Jane, I really enjoyed reading this summary of one of the most intimate relationships, that of Armand, Daniel and Jean-Guy. Thank you.
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Oh Jane, true respect for you with this response! Those details from earlier books re: Daniel were completely lost on me. I had completely forgotten about them! There is discussion elsewhere regarding the Gamache/Daniel relationship and some of the issues with how things were presented in ATDAH. And although I completely understand the struggles some readers had with that, I also thought that it’s the author’s right to reveal more layers of the onion whenever he/she decides is appropriate. So I just go with a “trust Louise” attitude and don’t question as much as others, but I also admire how much others know all the details of every book and also how much analysis has been done with every aspect of every book. I am looking forward to reading more of your responses during the discussion, as well as the responses of so many others who know the books so well. I was looking forward to participating for once, but maybe my greatest input will by my hearts for all the insightful, well-researched comments. Thank you for this comment.
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Thank you, mei lan, for your comments. I share your default to “trust Louise” when it comes to character development. I wish there was a space to ask her how she does that, how the decides where to take the people we just about consider personal friends next in their lives. It seems to me like that is a more complicated process than working out the trajectory and twists of a plot. I also learn much from all other comments. Even if I don’t share a given perspective. Sometimes it is the impetus to reread a certain section more carefully. I have found every discussion has deepened my appreciation of the book in question. They even challenge me to read some of the other authors recommended here but, for now, I am rereading Louise. I look forward to your take on every question.
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Sometimes, when you are surrounded by incredibly smart people who are more knowledgeable on the topic of discussion, it’s best to be quiet and learn. I think I will be giving lots of hearts for the next couple of weeks!! I wish I could give more than one heart to some comments to be honest!
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The relationships in The Grey Wolf are based on trust or distrust and whether the relationship is for personal or mutual benefit or the greater good. Charles Langlois sought out Armand Gamache because he was looking for someone to trust. Gamache should have trusted Charles because “joual was a trigger, a code that told another Quebecois that the speaker, while perhaps rough, was salt of the earth. He or she could be trusted. As you’d trust a grandparent.” Instead Charles created doubt in Armand so that he felt he could no longer trust people he’s trusted for years, especially Evelyn Tardiff and Madeleine Toussaint. The only trustworthy relationships, outside of immediate family, for Armand are Jean-Guy and Isabelle because they thrived when given second chances and they were bound by near death experiences. It is the very toxic relationship between Armand’s family and Jeanne Caron that Armand desperately wants to avoid, “but like most things ignored, it just got worse.” Ignoring her attempt to contact him means he is very late in getting vital information in the plot to poison Montreal’s water. But this person he distrusts the most saves his life. Armand trusts David Lavigne because they both have relatives with Down’s syndrome. David thought that that reasoning seemed “pretty flimsy,” even for Armand. In their conversation, David becomes very still, “the way a hunted animal became when it senses a predator.” A clue to David’s eventual betrayal of their trust and friendship and his attempt to kill Armand. “How easily humans could adjust to darkness. To dark thought and darker deeds. Until finally, the darkness became normal. And they no longer missed, or looked for, or trusted the light.” At one point, Armand asks “Do we ever totally trust anyone? Non, we’ll listen to what they say and we’ll corroborate.” And they decide to “look as incompetent as possible because they do not know whom to trust politically. “Political power, as you know, Inspector, lies in trust. The General tapped the coaster in front of him. . .The only reason democracy works is that there’s a contract between elected and those electing. A consent to be governed. But that contract is fragile. That consent can be withdrawn. Sophisticated terrorists know this. They hit targets that can shatter that trust.” And then “when scared, people would readily agree to things that hours earlier would have appalled them.” On lesser levels, Frere Simon who is given to “curiosity and crossing boundaries” violated trust and privacy and might have “inadvertently saved thousands of lives.” The relationship of Brother Robert, Frere Sebastien and Sister Irene seems to be based on trust, but their mutual benefit devolves to intimidation and death.
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Wow, Nancy! This is an excellent analysis.
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I agree with Jane, Mei Lan and don’t sell yourself short. I just took the broader notion on relationships in the book. And I have to say, that when I was rereading the book, I took notes with page numbers, so it would be easier for me to find connections and organize my thoughts.
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Your insights add a whole other thematic layer to the book that I hadn’t realized was so deeply woven into the story. This is why I find re-reading Louise’s books so enjoyable, because it always reveals something new that I’ve missed.
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I think you sell yourself short, mei lan, when it comes to adding insights about what we are reading here. I think Louise’s writing has more than enough layers for every reader to see something relevant.
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Hi all— I’ve just been enjoying reading all your insightful comments on this subject, and am so pleased to find that we share so many thoughts and feelings on the subject. Like you, Tara, Mei, and Jane, I was intrigued by the added depth and explanation of Armand’s strained relationship with Daniel over the past drug use. I know it had been mentioned in the past, but only as a passing reference of some difficult years; not imprisonment and a suicide attempt. It made me think about Armand’s relationship with Jean-Guy during his own struggles with drugs, his own near suicide, and I could imagine how much deeper the wound must have been for Armand as he watched yet another beloved “son” go down this similar route. And I. too, loved that scene on the couch — the Daniel of ATDAH would have stalked off in a petulant huff; the more mature, understanding Daniel came back. I was so touched when he said that he wanted Armand to trust him as he does Reine-Marie and JG. He seems to realize that he has to earn that trust now.
And my favorite moments were all about the relationships in this book, as usual. I just love these characters so much, and I particularly love Armand and JG, so was overjoyed to read so many great moments between them. I love it when they work together; they know each other so well, and play off one another seamlessly. Their return trip to the abbey was one of the highlights of the book for me— so many poignant moments there (as well as the humorous/scary plane ride in). I just loved it when Armand said, “It’s OK; we’re OK” and meant so much more than just that they’d survived the trip, in response to JG’s feeling of shame for his past actions. And I love that JG realized that it was true, instead of having the insecure doubts he would have had in the past. I loved the frank discussions they held there about what had happened between them; and JG’s intuitive timing when he found Armand “among the wolves!” (he seems to have sensed that Armand was up and about at that hour; in past books, he’s been known to follow Armand when he wanders off, and Armand always seems to know that it’s him approaching — they have an almost supernatural sense of one another, another facet of their deep relationship). And yet another protective moment from JG- he places himself between Armand and the forest, just in case. That scene, and his thoughtfulness in getting Armand the new shoes and ice pack at that restaurant, and his careful first aid when Armand was wounded, all show his depth of caring and protectiveness in that relationship. Just as Armand had realized, they look after each other, and always have.
And oh, that scene with Ruth popping up from behind the couch! Another one of my favorite relationships in these books is definitely the one between Ruth and JG. It has developed beautifully, and this touching moment was the first time that I recall of Ruth ever actually voicing, straightforwardly, her concern for JG, though she’s shown so many times that she cares about him, as he does her. Such a sweet moment.
And yes, I very much agree, Nancy, about the themes of trust/mistrust peppered throughout this book. It has always seemed to be a central concept in this Three Pines world — who do you trust to have your back? Who do you trust with your life? Your emotions and innermost thoughts? It provides so much food for thought, and in this world, keeps me guessing, and intrigued. -
Susan Ault, Thank you so much for your incredible summary and comments. Since I saw you had joined Book Club Friends, I have been looking forward to your insights on this question since you have previously described yourself as a Jean-Guy fan. This is an amazing summary of so many pivotal moments in this story for me and I so enjoyed revisiting them in your summary.
I appreciate how much time LP devotes to these three men and there relationships in this book. Their relationships have been among the most complex of all of the characters; conflicted, at time almost to the point of irreparable rupture, yet still enduring, intimate and protective. Each of these men seems to me to mature in this story both in their relationship with one another and in their individual self-awareness. For Daniel that means trusting his dad, for Jean-Guy it means forgiving himself and for Armand I think it means accepting protection without protest.
I am wondering where we will see these men in “The Black Wolf”? The Armand we see in the final chapters suffers from hearing loss and unremitting tinnitus from a concussion and more than a little PTSD. Lacoste-“It would be awhile, she knew, before he could return to active duty. If ever.”
And thanks so much for the reminder of Ruth!
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I consider myself a professional lurker because I never comment. I am extremely shy, even on the Internet!!! But I am breaking my habit here just to say how incredibly impressed I am with just how knowledgable and insightful and wonderfully analytical you all are: Jane, Susan, Nancy, Tara….so far!! The official discussions have not even begun, so I imagine there could be/will be so many more lovely friends who come to share their thoughts. And these are the thoughts that I value so much. Quite often we see “I loved it” as a comment under a discussion for a specific question, where that answer doesn’t quite fit. Here, everyone is so tuned in and present. It is fabulously refreshing. Thank you all so very much. I hope you know how much your comments add to my, (and likely others), understanding and appreciation of the books, and, if I’m honest, of life, as these books reflect realities of human nature, history, etc. A thousand hearts to you all!!
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Oh thanks for that! I was excited to see your name here, too. I’ve always enjoyed your thoughtful comments, and I think you appreciate many of the things about the books that I also respond to, including the complicated world inside JG’s head!
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The mystery of why Daniel and his father’s relationship has been such a battle ground is further unraveled in The Grey Wolf. Once again Gamache’s position in the Surete and the decisions he makes concerning situations that arise has impacted his son greatly. Gamache put Daniel in the crosshairs of a cunning political enemy who fabricated lies that put young Daniel (now clean and drug free) in jail where he relapsed. Once out of jail, Daniel returned to rehab, fought through his addiction and suicidal thoughts. This, added to an eight year old Daniel’s misconceived thoughts about his dad’s loving his job more than his mother and himself clarifies for me the depth of the gorge between father and son. Building a bridge over that expanse is no easy feat. My heart took a picture when Daniel remarked that he trusted his father even if his father might not trust him yet. That speaks volumes for a son who has harbored such anger towards his father most of his life.
Also, I loved the scene between Ruth and Jean-Guy in the Gamache home. Ruth had been napping behind the sofa. “The old poet struggled to get up. Jean-Guy held out his arms, and she gripped them as he lifted her to her feet. She looked into his eyes. ‘You’d better come home.’ ‘I will,’ he whispered and kissed her on both cheeks. ‘Thank you for looking after the family”. Ruth and Jean-guy’s relationship has grown in leaps and bounds. Earlier in the series I never thought this show of caring emotions would be possible between the two of them. And who would ever in their right minds consider Ruth as a babysitter?! And she volunteered, too!!! This is one of the things I love about Louise’s books – how she continues to develop the characters and their relationships.
We also meet a new character that may make for intriguing relationships in future books. Shona, the blogger/vlogger, has a backlog of hate for Gamache ( going back to when she was eight) but a nose for information. Is it possible she will become a Gamache ally? I can see a unique, possibly tricky relationship develop between Shona and Amelia. What a team that would make. -
I’m always intrigued by the relationships between our core characters. Like others have said, Daniel’s drug use stood out as a significant storyline. I wonder if he and Jean-Guy might share their recovery stories with each other in a future book?
I also felt that LP was emphasizing how Gamache’s work and sense of duty often put innocent people in harm’s way—not intentionally, but as a consequence of the difficult choices he must make for the greater good. He pays a steep personal cost for his choices.
This happens throughout the book. When Gamache doesn’t help the Deputy PM’s daughter, Daniel ends up jailed for a longer time, and their relationship suffers. When Gamache arrests Shona Dorion’s mother, Shona grows up seeking revenge, attacking him through the press. Also, Gamache withholds information about the threat to the water system, putting thousands of lives at risk. He does confide in David Lavigne, but that turns out to be a terrible mistake, nearly costing him his life (although it does cost Dom Phillipe his). Gamache is often forced into impossible situations where his decisions inadvertently could harm others or put them at risk. But it’s not Gamache’s fault, it’s the consequences of crime.-
You make a great point, with excellent examples. And those were all as a result of his professional responsibilities having to overtake his personal preferences; he was doing his job, which he considers his sacred duty. Much like when he had to leave Jean-Guy at the factory during that haunting raid— Armand does the things that have to be done, no matter the personal cost. That’s a heavy burden to bear. I also felt awful for him when he made the decision to save that little girl instead of Charles. A split second, gut-wrenching decision that was the right one to make morally, but still, the consequences would be so hard to endure.
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Gamache’s past relationship with Daniel is the most significant reveal, in my opinion. Learning that Daniel was a drug addict and had nearly committed suicide because he was used as a pawn to try and manipulate Gamache to break the law is just heartbreaking. That the daughter of the Deputy PM doesn’t get charged but goes free (the affluenza defence in action again!) while Daniel serves extra time for no reason is an even more bitter pill to swallow. It’s a dramatic backstory—almost one I thought deserving of a short story of its own. That Gamache still carries around so much guilt about it is also upsetting. He bears his responsibilities courageously and carries so much weight on his shoulders about the victims of the crimes he works on. That his ethics and incorruptibility hurt his son is a terrible burden to place on him. However, I think that when Daniel tells his father he trusts him, it means Gamache may be finally able to work towards forgiving himself.
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Once again, so many additional and thoughtful comments and excellent examples. It is evidence to me how much more there is to see and appreciate than I recognize in my reading. The complexity of LP’s characters is one of the most compelling things for me about her writing and it was at the top of my reasons for why I really enjoy “The Grey Wolf.” I think the newest insight came from the story of Armand and Daniel’s relationship. Both Daniel and Armand paid a high price for Armand’s fidelity to the law and to his oath as an officer of the law. That he ultimately prevailed, secured Daniel’s release from prison and had the false charges expunged in no way undid the damage done or the pain both men suffered. I see Daniel as a much more complex person than in previous stories. Even though he and Armand moved forward in their relationship with one another, my view of Daniel was more limited, informed by his experience as a child rather than the gravity of his imprisonment and suicide attempt as a young man. It seems to me that Daniel’s response to Armand when he tells Daniel about Caron and not the whole story indicates that Daniel not only wants a different relationship with his father but also signals he is willing to work for it. Like others, I am looking forward to where LP takes these two men and their relationship with one another.
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I full heartedly agree with Jane. Everyone’s insights into LP’s characters are wonderful! And you all have touched on many of the moments that left an impression on me, but you have described them far more eloquently than I could. I can see we all have the same love and deep appreciation for Armand and his family in the Surete and Three Pines. <3
One impression I got from Armand’s relationships in The Grey Wolf was that his professional relationships are growing. Yes, Gamache is yet again betrayed by a professional longtime friend – David Lavigne. But he has an expanding circle of international confidants who he can reach out to for help. He now has powerful colleagues in France (Claude Dussault), England (Sherry Caufield), and the US (General Whitehead). Too early to say if Superintendent Genori will be an ally in Italy.
And within the Surete he has Evelyn Tardiff and Madeleine Toussaint. Of the two, I have a little bit of doubt about Toussaint – why did she invite Shona the vlogger to the press conference again? Was that explained?
As for Tardiff and her secrets about the mob I do think that the mob informant who Gamache thinks could turn on them will come up again next book and maybe Tardiff will need to reveal some of those secrets. Armand still suspects there is rot in the Surete (“While he trusted Tardiff, he knew that there were elements within the Surete. Old ones, planted years ago. Who bided their time.”). So who knows how far the “roots” have spread.
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You are so right about the professional relationships. I had not really considered looking at those. Finding Claude Dussault in another story was wonderful. I am skeptical about Toussaint, for sure, and even a bit about Tardiff. It seems to me that Toussaint has been trying to at least undermine Armand for some time. And she is described as having political ambitions.
These comments make me even more eager for the next book!
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And Toussaint is the one who invited Shona to the news conference where Shona went after Armand again.
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I liked how Jean-Guy and Armand revisited Saint-Gilbert-Entre-les-Loups together and this time the visit brought them closer together whereas in A Beautify Mystery it drove them apart. When Armand reveals he felt so angry when Jean-Guy left without him and then shared the story of the two wolves. That they could share their feelings and a bit of wisdom about the two wolves was just one of several touching moments between the pair. Jean-Guy really is like a second son to Armand now.
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Totally agree, Jill. I too loved their time at Saint-Gilbert. I thought Jean-Guy saving Armand from the real wolf was a pretty dramatic moment and it really reinforced how much he is looking after Armand and protecting him now. He has matured and is strong. And their relationship is so much more balanced than it was before, it feels healed.
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Definitely agree about the balance in Jean-Guy and Armand’s relationship. I think that is partly because Jean-Guy is more self aware but also because Armand is more accepting of balance, of relinquishing the role of always giving.
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It has taken me an hour or more to get
In here finally just to say I copied the phrase Gamache thought when Jean Guy brought him an ice pack and new soft shoes.
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Adele, I am glad you prevailed. I realize I have had some time (and some early help from admins) to get used to this site so I now find it both accessible and easy to find what I want.
To your question, I think that is part of how their relationship has changed over time. What struck me in this scene was Armand’s immediate acceptance of Jean-Guy’s care and support.
Armand resisted Jean-Guy’s efforts to back him up in his conflicts with Brebeuf. He only shared the story of his parents’ deaths and the connection to Amelia Choquet when Jean-Guy found and did not open the box with the newspaper clippings. He successfully kept Jean-Guy entirely out of his work with Amelia to find the carfentanil that had made it to the streets of Montreal before they successfully brought down the cartels. He has regarded himself as the protector of his officers, especially Jean-Guy. So, it is interesting that he is now comfortable with more balance and mutuality in their relationship and willing to acknowledge “They’d guarded and protected each other from the moment they’d met, lifetimes ago.”
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I’m with you, Jane– it’s good to see that Armand accepts JG’s help now. He seems to realize that JG doesn’t always need protecting now, that he’s grown into a more mature and less vulnerable man who knows himself so much more and makes good, careful decisions when need be (thanks, I think, to learning more about himself through his experiences, including therapy and AA, and learning to accept that he is indeed loved and valued, and deserving of it). I think that Armand always respected JG’s capabilities, but didn’t always feel he was prepared to deal with all the truly reprehensible, diabolical enemies that were lurking about within the system. Now they are once again plunged into that sort of situation, but instead of trying to go it alone, Armand accepts JG and Isabelle more as equals, who can “take a punch.”
And it struck me when reading that scene where JG brought him the ice pack and new shoes, that this time, Armand simply accepted with gratitude, whereas in TMOC, when JG helped him get into warm boots when Armand was freezing (while guarding the victim during some vicious weather), he had feebly protested, saying he could do it himself. Progress has been made; acceptance. Beautiful to see.
As far as how long it had been that this was a mutually protective relationship, one of the things that caught my interest in this relationship in the very early books was that JG, even though he was still very much in a boss/employee, mentor/mentee relationship with Armand, kept behind that “locked door” in his heart a desire to keep Armand safe. He didn’t know why he had the feeling, wasn’t in touch enough with his feelings to understand that he really cared about the man, but he still had that desire to protect. I like that LP hints that this is a relationship that has endured in many forms over many lifetimes!-
In the earlier books, Jean-Guy ignored and dismissed feelings.
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Yes, very much so. Like Ruth, he seemed to feel things very deeply, but was afraid of letting that side of himself show. He was good at anger and frustration, though! And as far as solving cases went, he just wanted to deal with clean, sterile facts instead of being forced to consider, and maybe then feel, the emotions that might be in play. I still really want to learn more about his background and what’s behind all that. I know there have been hints about a non-nurturing childhood, but I’d love to know more detail. I’m sure there’s a good story there. It was sweet to see that he’s finally discovered how important feelings are through his relationships with Annie, the kids, and Armand, and is able to admit that. The boy is maturing!
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TGW also raises some questions about Jean-Guy’s experiences as a kid in Catholic schools. While waiting for Sister Joan in the school in DC where Brother Sebastien taught, Jean-Guy is remembering his school, “All the priests and nuns at his school had been, or seemed, elderly. Dried-up. Stern. Angry. Tired. Unhappy.” “The walls here were painted the same light green as his school.” “The color of fear and powerlessness. Of shame and guilt and undefined but definite sin.”
Hardly sounds like the kind of environment most would find nurturing but it seems very unlikely to me that a pediatric version of Jean-Guy would have.
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Yes, I found that interesting; yet another facet to his personality revealed, and I want to know more. I take it he was made to feel guilty, fearful and sinful at that school, but I wonder what the circumstances were. I hope that someday LP will tell that tale.
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